Yes! WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. But I believe I can give you some good advice. Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. 1,056,736, 1,243,264 The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. This is a great bowie knife that you can get for under $30. Check out our awesome collection now. It is supposed to have catalog pages showing the available knives from before WW2 through 1979. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. Wow Colonel, that is very special. A naive question, most probably - but, was this chroming ever done in-country? Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. Click Buy it now or Add to cart and proceed to checkout. NOTE: This is NOT AN AUCTION. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. All photos were 10 chops. The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. 1,516,995, 2,758,374 Skinning/Hunting/Camping knife, Western States, Boulder Colorado 2 blade pocket knife / Advertising pocket knife c.1911-1950. AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! I guess the extra weight of the brass piece on the spine of the blade helps. I would stay away from those not marked "BOWIE" on the blade or cross guard. Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. This is a 1980s Western W-49 Bowie knife with rosewood and brass handle and tang valued at $160 to $200CAD. Original Price 4,173,456 Camillus produced the W49 until 2006. Its something for me to shoot for. C $128.75. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline, Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . Original Price 4,962,808 Free shipping on orders $99+. AH, I was unaware of this point. Original Price 2,997,044 I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. Bottom line if you want a western Bowie that was actully used in Vietnam you need good provinence on the knife. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. Sale Price 1,775,148 by Colonel26 Wed May 02, 2018 10:54 am, Post You must log in or register to reply here. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. It's easy! 2,807,882, 9,359,606 You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. I have two of them. IMHO many more variations on these knives also fall into the proper Vietnam time period. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. The seller might still be able to personalize your item. $123.74, $164.99 4,617,980, 6,157,389 I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. JavaScript is disabled. Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. SKIP. Original Price 3,550,296 Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. This traditionally Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. 3,263,547, 4,662,315 (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. Under Add your personalization, the text box will tell you what the seller needs to know. (15% off), Sale Price 4,256,897 I don't know how long they made this knife but by the 1978 catalog it has disappeared. Western started doing this in 1977 and Coleman/Western continued it. I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. No, I never wrote it up. MERRY CHRISTMAS! Thanks for stepping in, Sac. Corral have been captivating the imaginations of America's boys and girls for generations, as something about that lawless, pioneering time speaks to the heart of America's individualistic mentality. Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. The 4th variant also has larger pins. Email with Questionsor Offers: sandersknives@gmail.com. (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 am, Post I have never found any reference to Western chroming their knives. The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. Exterior: Minimal Wear. You'll feel like an O Timber Rattler Whispering Winds Bowie Knife 19.98 Timber Rattler captures the beauty of the southwest with this handsome Whispering Winds bowie knife. Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it seemed like the right place to add this. Thanks for compiling this data and putting it into the chart that you've provided. Sold. i don't need to use it too much. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . There are two variations of guard marked W49's. (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. 1,097,291, 1,995,074 I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. It has alot of documentation and looks good. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 Thanks for the replies, I picked up one. http://img443.No_outside_hosting.us/i/cbf7pjgcwkkgrhqyoknmez4.jpg/. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance. The ones marked W49 with large handle bolts are questionable to me. It came in handy when I tested a Ontario sp 8 "machete". The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. 1,666,256, 3,029,557 (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. (45% off), Sale Price 2,422,280 As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. The W49 is the 9 1/2" "V44" type with the immense S-curve guard and laminated rosewood slab handles. I know a thin edge can chop without damage if used properly, but I cant guarantee I my form will always be perfect when using a "chopper". Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. Original Price 2,460,591 Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. 3,338,731, 4,173,456 Our global marketplace is a vibrant community of real people connecting over special goods. Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. joe. Vintage Western U.S.A W49 Bowie Knife Pre-Owned C $337.45 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Extremely rare, Western Cutlery, model W49 Bowie fighting knife C $607.40 or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Vintage Large Western Bowie Knife W49 F Pre-Owned C $337.44 Buy It Now +C $27.52 shipping estimate Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. It appears that much was lost during the periods that Western changed hands. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. Even though we were young and we knew every thing. You are using an out of date browser. Also has medal with his name and paper documents dated 69-70. hi sactroop the info you sent to me, is just what i was look for and the photos are a great help to me aswell.thanks for your help. Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. Original Price 4,437,574 He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. I obviously don't know everything about these (or any other Western), just what I've picked up here on BF and other forums, but I think the knives were still being made at Western's Longmont, Colorado factory after Coleman bought the company, so they were being made by the same people on the same equipment using the same materials. Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. If you don't have an account, create one here. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. A top-end bowie knife that's been around since World War II, the Ka-Bar U.S. Marine Corps Bowie Knife is durable and versatile. Absolutely! They all had really good documentation. Western didn't seem to keep real accurate records. $75.30, $188.24 It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. i have one i bought late 80's i think 60 bucks otd, got it cuase a buddy had one and he loved it. 14 5/8 inches overall. No chips or cracks in handles. Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. Original Price 3,448,276 i have had a western bowie for 30 years. Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. It has been custom painted with knotwork. 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. See the full list: Hotels near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 ** I "BUY" KNIVES ** - Any Size Collection!!! 2,093,350, 4,186,946 Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. $148.00, $185.00 We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. I accept payment in the form of Pay Pal, Credit Card (Online Only), Personl Check and Money Orders. Who has the knowledge for this situation? The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". Original Price $31.38 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. Great! Probably one of the most memorable movie quotes of all time came about when Crocodile Dundee scoffed at a mugger's switchblade saying, "That's not a knife." (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 I gave one to my dad as a gift many years agothe knife I gave him is like a razor. Original Price 1,898,817 Anyone have experience with them? Never sharpened, carried, or cleaned. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. You are using an out of date browser. . Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife Check Price. Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! The W49 is the most common found today. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. Tweet Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. Ridge Runner Whitetail Ridge Bowie Knife $26.99 $9.98! Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. Below are pictures of the guard: Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 4,256,897, 6,978,325 (45% off), Sale Price 1,056,736 Original Price 2,610,345 (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post I don't consider it to be bad. Captcha failed to load. It's the 30s to 76 that is sometimes enigmatic. Let me know. I have been trying for some time to compile dating info and as you probably know there are some gray areas. This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. I can hope. JavaScript is disabled. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". Choose the options youd like for the order. from United States. The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). $89.17, $297.22 Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. Original Price 9,852,217 This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Sign up for a new account in our community. Items are guaranteed to be AS DESCRIBED - if there is any problem with your purchase, please contact me - I value your business and want you to be a satisfied customer! $86.70, $289.00 These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. Original Price 6,896,552 One is the lack of surviving documents from the Western Cutlery Co. . I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. If this is the knife I am thinking of (stacked leather handle with a traditional clip style blade) a friend had one when I was younger and as I recall the knife was darn near impossible to get an edge on. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked:WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Original Price $121.00 Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. 2,603,550, 4,733,728 (45% off), Sale Price 2,438,424
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