Im sure that if your God is all about love and grace he will know our hearts better than you and will fully understand in his 3-omni way. Their page says "Our church is a friendly fundamental Bible-believing Independent Baptist . It surrenders far too much to allow that fundamental refers to the core doctrines of the Christian faith. The fundamentals of fundamentalists are mainly not that at all, but rather a host of relatively recent doctrinal innovations, such as inerrancy. They preferred to remain ignorant of evidence suggesting that something in the air around the plant was giving them cancer. It's unlikely there isn't an IFB church within a half-hour drive from your house. Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up out of the water again. My mom grew up with this rule but never was told why. Reached by phone, Giovanelli said he had no comment and hung up. Thou shalt leave tracts in various and sundry places: the aisles of Walmart, in library books, at the doctors office, so that all may know the Good News of the Gospel. In surviving the worst, survivors of IFB have become the best. Cathy, if you had read more of what Bruce wrote, you would see that your simplistic message isnt necessary. One alleged abuser went on to serve as an administrator in a Christian school in a different state, even after Shiflett warned the schools pastor. A one-foot ruler, or its equivalent in a paddle, is a sufficient alternative. 5.) Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. No compromise. Sarah Smith and the other reporters and editors who worked on this deserve great credit and gratitude. I pray for all of you. One of the hardest life lessons I ever had to learn is that in the main, people prefer to be deceived. You loved when you had no more love to give. First Baptist Church of Glenarden 4.5. The co-founder, Paul Kingsbury, recently was forced to leave his position at North Love Baptist Church in Rockford, Ill., for his role in helping a sex . The fundamentals first, then warp the bible to fit the fundamentals, and all gods people said.amen. 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Dont Dress Like a Whore if You Dont Want to Get Sexually Assaulted Says Lori Alexander, Thou shalt obey all adults at all times if you are a child or teenager, Thou shalt obey your husband at all times if you are a woman, Thou shalt obey your parents at all times, Thou shalt obey the police and government unless the pastor says it is a sin against God to do so, Thou shalt give a faith promise missionary offering, Thou give an offering any time the pastor says God is saying to collect a special offering, Thou shalt attend church every time the doors are open, Thou shalt pray for every meal, but ice cream at Dairy Queen after church requires no prayer, Thou shalt only use the King James Bible 1611 edition which is really the 1769 revision, Thou shalt only use the Scofield King James Bible, Thou shalt not have long hair (over your ears, collar) if you are a man, Thou shalt not have a block cut hairstyle if you are a man, Thou shalt not have facial hair if you are a man, but if you are a woman you can have facial hair, Thou shalt not have tattoos unless you have prison tats from your life before Christ, Thou shalt not take the hem out of your Levi jeans or alter your clothing in any way so that you look worldly, Thou shalt not wear pants (britches) if you are a woman, Thou shalt not wear shorts, but a woman can wear Baptist shorts also known as culottes, Thou shalt not expose any flesh if you are a woman, especially your thighs, breasts, or back, Thou shalt only wear dresses with hemlines below the knees if you are a woman, Thou shalt not have any physical contact with the opposite sex if you are unmarried, Thou shalt not have more than one hole in each ear if you are a woman, Thou shalt not pierce any body part except your ear, and then only if you are a woman, Thou shalt not watch TV, but if you are a carnal Christian and must watch TV thou shalt only watch, Thou shalt not go to the movie theater, but using streaming services is okay, Thou shalt always have tracts in your shirt pocket or purse, ready to evangelize at a moments notice, Thou shalt drive a car with church advertising stickers, IFB cliches, or Bible verses attached to the bumper, Thou shalt park down the street when visiting the local strip club or whore house lest the pastor know you are there and stay away, Thou shalt not listen to secular music, especially rock music, which is from the pit of hell, Thou shalt not listen to contemporary Christian music (CCM), Thou shalt not drink fermented alcohol after all, Jesus drank Welchs grape juice, Thou shalt not cuss, but saying darn, shoot, crap, freaking, and fudge are okay, Thou shalt not date non-Independent Baptist girls or boys, Thou shalt not have any non-Independent Baptist friends, Thou shalt home school your children or send them to a Christian school, Thou shalt only read pastor-approved Christian books, Thou shalt only believe what the pastor says you are to believe, Thou shalt say you have victory over sin, even if you are lying, Thou shalt adhere to the perception is reality rule, Thou shalt send your kids to the same Christian college the pastor went to, Thou shalt leave the church if you commit adultery, get a divorce, or get pregnant outside of marriage, Thou shalt believe everything the pastor says even when you are certain he is lying, speaking evangelistically, or embellishing his illustrations, Thou shalt wear a bra if you are a woman, and it can only be a white, underwire bra, Thou shalt not mix bathe (Baptist for swimming with the opposite sex), Thou shalt not go to amusement parks unless the youth group is going, Thou shalt not show emotion unless praising Jesus from 10:00 am to noon on Sunday or giving a testimony during Sunday evening service, Thou shalt say AMEN during at the appropriate time during the pastors sermon, especially when he shouts, pounds the pulpit, or performs gymnastics, Thou shalt not be angry even though the pastor is allowed to be angry, but thats because his anger is righteous anger, Thou shalt be for what the pastor is for and against what the pastor is against, because if you dont, a bear might come out of the woods and eat you, Thou shalt ignore any science that contradicts the Bible, Thou shalt never try to fix your own problems because the pastor is the official fixer of all problems, Thou shalt takes notes on the sermon even if the rabbit wanders five miles off the trail or the sermon is incoherent, Thou shalt always tell the pastor what a wonderful sermon he preached, even when you have no idea what he was talking about, Thou shalt always tell Sister Bertha what a wonderful job she did with her off-key rendition of, Thou shalt not use canned (taped) music for music specials. It could be the case that Bishop Andonios is lying here. History of Landmarkism. I appreciate being asked to offer you guys a word of support, but you should be offering support to me and anyone else lucky enough to hear what you have to say. The church was established in 1975 with a small band of seventy-five people. The network of churches and schools has often covered up the crimes and helped relocate the offenders, an eight-month Star-Telegram investigation has found. I grew up in the IFB circles in the PNW. I would not have returned a clergyman to his former parish after what transpired but out of pastoral sensitivity to the desires of the overwhelming numbers of parishioners who sought his return, he said. The independent fundamentalist Baptist movement emerged sometime in the 1940s as an attempt to continue the legacy of the fundamentalist movement of the 1920s. The cause is clear. NOT so that we can all march over there and say "huzzah! Ben Bogard (1868-1951) was its chief defender during his lifetime. Here are some quotes from the book: Wake up to the day's most important news. (The mind of an 18 year old girl that had been sort of bad with many boys in high school, shame on me) They attended Bill Gothard seminars and proudly embraced that whole creepy business. I vaguely recognize some of the standards that you mentioned, but not to the extreme that you have described them. Pastor Stacey Shiflett finally had enough: For Shiflett, the issue was personal. Independent Baptist Churches believe the following "Independent Baptist Distinctives": 1. If you're unfamiliar with the beliefs and practices of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, some of them are: The King James Version is the only true Word of God; all other translations of the Bible are the work of the devil. When he spoke out, other pastors condemned him. Baptist. It upheld what it believed to be the true spirit of fundamentalism amid changes in the conservative Protestant landscape. Part 3: All . Independent Fundamental Baptist churches believe that the authority to baptize was given to the first church, organized by our Savior. Pastors of large churches and leaders of fundamentalist institutions such as Bob Jones, John R. Rice, and Jack Hyles still identified with the label fundamentalist. This movement was characterized by a staunch commitment to biblical orthodoxy filteredthrough the King James Bible, an adherence to second-degree separation or that idea that Christians must separate themselves frombothunbelievers (the world)andfellow conservative Protestants who did not separate sufficiently enough from unbelievers (Billy Graham and the rest of the neo-evangelicals fell into this second category), and a propensity for strong white preachers who ran independent congregations that were not accountable to denominations. Hed twice been a victim of attempted sexual misconduct in the church world. When in the 1940s and 1950s former fundamentalists such as Billy Graham, Carl F.H. He will kick you out of church and put you on church discipline for 6 months, after which you will be restored as a brother. We were informed that the parishioners felt so strongly that they would protest in front of the Archdiocese for the return of their priest, he said. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination paints a picture of God also as one who is a military leader, unhappy with all the disobedience happening among his people and patiently waiting for when he can punish us and correct our deviant behavior. No other part of the anatomy (e.g. If you spend any time covering sexual abuse story, any belief that congregations are never complicit in abuse and cover-up goes evaporates quickly. Baptists are one of the few religious groups whose adherents dispute their own beginnings. They try to control people and do evangelize. The items you are questioning are not the "doctrine" of independent fundamental Baptists. This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. I have tried to overlook them, but they won't go away. The Lordship controversy and misrepresenting the Lordship preachers. Unless you are a college student on a bus route. I surrendered to preach, and was called to the Lord's ministry as a result of growing up in an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination Welcome to BaptistDeception.com Edit Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. Thou shalt not molest children, and if ye do thou shalt confess it to the pastor so he can hide it from the police and threaten the congregation into silence. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. They are going out of their way to send a few to heaven, while you are going out of your way to send a few more to hell. See where Im going with this? You brought all of yourself. And like everyone else in the world you want that love to mean something, to be incorporated into and desired by something worthy of it. The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series of reform facilities, known as Roloff Homes, for what he called, "parent-hating, Satan-worshiping, dope-taking immoral boys and girls," according to a 2000 investigative report in Texas Cat got his tongue? However, many of these churches have affiliations through theological colleges or pastoral friendships. In Christ alone. You are to rule over him as a benevolent sovereign. This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. This is especially important, since the pastor needs his bodyguard detail rotated every so often. More importantly, its disrespectful to the victims who bravely came forward to share their stories with reporters from the Fort Worth paper. New IFB Beliefs. Baptism therefore represents the Gospel, which consists of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. They kept what worked for them. As a transgender woman, I find that interesting, to say the least! The modern fundie bible is full of contradictions and lies. Say the name of that group several times, slowly, and let it all sink in New. or a year or whatever. Some of them are becoming social halls instead of true worship centers. Don't hold it against me. During the 1970s and 1980s, Falwell seemed to operate in a space somewhere between the independent Baptist world of his upbringing and the neo-evangelicalism of Billy Graham andChristianity Today. You loved, and loved, and loved some more. I was in the Christian church for 50 years. In 1976, Dr. Jack Trieber was called to pastor this work. It upheld what it believed to be. Meant to be taken literally, the KJV is inspired, inerrant, infallible, and the supreme and final authority in all things. Will you join us? I preached over 4,000 sermons. You dont report to police because the pastor is the ultimate authority, not the government.. The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. Part of HuffPost Religion. This is the Christianity of millions of North Americans. The video posted on the church website ends. The short answer is that going to the movies supported Hollywood. They cant even follow their own bible when it contradicts their dogma. Thou shalt study various martial arts disciplines, as these are masculine. He cries in pain. sigh Do you realize how offensive your words are to unbelievers; people who struggled and agonized over leaving Christianity? If the crying is still defiant, protesting and other than a response to pain, spank him again. Hope you have a good day. Another rule our Church had not on your list; women shall not cut their hair. Thou shalt not have sex with other women in the church but thou canst eye fuck them when they sit in front of you in church, and can corner them after church and have awkwardly flirty conversations with them when they are trying to leave because youre a fucking awkward creep. I cant for the life of me understand why, disgruntled as you are, you would go out of your way to take a personal hand in someones trip to eternal punishment. After I graduated from that school I didnt wear a skirt for 2 years at my secular university! Shellnut is also helpful in clarifying just who these independent fundamentalist Baptists are: Around 2.5 percent of Americans identify as independent Baptists, according to thePew Research Center more than belong to the Assemblies of God, Churches of Christ, or Episcopal and Anglican churches. And what can possibly be more worthy of a person's love than God and family? This means that there are approximately 7.85 million IFBs in America today. in fundamentalism for pastors and churches and ministries to just gloss over and sweep under the rug things of absolute epic proportion, he said in the video. The pastor, Jack Trieber, dressed in a yellow tie and matching pocket square, reached into his pocket to put on his glasses before reading a statement that allegations of inappropriate conduct had been made against Giovanelli. They didn't give over their will over to God. But these folks were seen as a little bit too much by most of the people in the church, whose kids got to choose places like Philadelphia College of the Bible or Northeastern Bible College. Ernest Willis found guilty of raping teen Tina Anderson, a fellow church member. Yet independent Baptists, by design, are less familiar to outsiders than other Christian traditions. Black people bear the indelible and wretched curse of the "mark of Cain.". Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. While neo-evangelicals sent their kids to Wheaton College or Fuller Theological Seminary, fundamentalist Baptist kids went toBob Jones UniversityorPensacola Christian College. How I struggled to free myself from this oppressive thinking. Holly Meyer/AP. And there are Baptist ch. I've heard of Dan Souza, but that's about all. There are other problems among fundamentalist Baptists as well as Homophobia : "I told her that I was raped and how violent it was and how I was terrified it would happen again. It was they who lied -- first to themselves, and then to you. Dreherlives in Baton Rouge, La. Dispensationalism is common among Independent Baptists. She actually got upset! An Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Hate List Bruce Gerencser November 13, 2020 Evangelicalism 58 Comments The Bible says in 1 John 2:15,16 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. Women not wearing pants, women not working, women being not allowed to speak up in church, have any sort of leadership role, etc. Any issues, even legal issues, go to the pastor first, not the police. And screw 'em if they do. So there is some good to the IFB movement. Escape by Carolyn Jessop. Twice in the New Testament, Paul gives long lists of human behaviors that preclude people from inheriting the kingdom of God. You have all the information you need to attack me for making this statement, but I assure you that there is very little left to attack. Its been the M.O. 2. Answer (1 of 7): >> Why are Baptist Churches so legalistic? * Maybe some can relate to this cartoon from NAKEDPASTOR. When I joined the junior high youth group, they even gave me a Living Bible (the one with the cool denim cover and the stick-figure illustrations). I was never attacked by them, and to the best of my knowledge neither were my siblings. If you have to sit on him to spank him then do not hesitate. But we need YOUR help to make this project successful! And the all important, Thou shalt not, never, under no circumstances, not even in thought, criticize the pastor. Gods anointed, remember! BTW, I went to Carolina Baptist College, Reidsville, NC, (Reidsville Baptist Church, Pastor Jerry Carter,) 1998-2002. Yelling, storytelling, and moralism replaced proclaiming simply what God has said. Unlike the Catholic Church, the fundamental Baptist church considers itself to be made up of independent entities. Thou shalt take your wife out to lunch on Friday afternoon; this is your allotted time with her. You gave. * This paywall nonsense is unnecessary, counter-productive, and really disrespectful of the papers investigative team. My religious upbringing was pretty bizarre, but this stuff? Jerry Falwell, the founder of Liberty University, came out of this tradition, but he was quicklydisownedby his fellow separatist Baptists when he decided to get involved in politics. Those who opposed the Great Whore of Revelation before the rise of the Reformers were again you guessed it; BAPTIST CHRISTIANS who came before the Protestant Christians ever came to existence and I am proud of my Baptist heritage. Please reconsider Jesus and the Gospel. The basic beliefs of this group is Anti-LGBT, Misogyny, Anti-Worldliness, KJV Bible only, anti-semitism, and more. They might as well be Mormons.Sense they add their own rules and Bible.They are acting as a cult its not biblical.Gal1:8 They are teaching false teachings,And not the doctrines of the Bible.They are Just adding their own rules. Pray tell, Kathy, what are you going to tell me about the Bible that I dont already know? Although I did finally deconvert I resent the years I lost trying to live under these ridiculous guidelines. The King James Version is the only true Word of God; all other translations of the Bible are the work of the devil. The name Independent Fundamental Baptist Church is used traditionally by churches which pattern themselves strictly after the example of the early church, as found in the New Testament.
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